linuxaudio.org

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 23:12, Andrea Glorioso wrote:

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> Marek Peteraj  writes:

>

> > On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 20:08, Andrea Glorioso wrote:

> >> Marek Peteraj  writes:

> >>

> >> > But the site says it's targeting the music, recording and broadcast

> >> > industry...

> >>

> >> Why can't   you just stop  a bit   and suspend your  criticisms  until

> >> something gets actually done ?

> >

> > Because i'd like to see it done right? And help out?

>

> Accusing people   of "being about to  destroy  the importance of linux

> audio" (cit.) is not a good way of helping out  - I think we can agree

> on this.

No.
>

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> >> The right to criticize is sacred, but I think everybody should use it

> >> with a grain of salt.

> >

> > Just think about what i'm saying and you'll start seeing that it's not

> > at all trolling.

>

> That's a matter of opinion, and just as you have criticized the way in

> which the  initial consortium  discussions  have been done  (i.e. on a

> closed mailing list, although I already explained  the reasons why the

> list was   closed and I  generally don't  agree that *all* discussions

> must or should  be kept on open mailing  lists) I think you can accept

> the fact that the way in which *you* have  presented your ideas and or

> objections can be interpreted as trolling.

No. Read my very first post which was originally private, teh one meant

for Daniel.
>

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> I mean, if one persons thinks  you are trolling,  s/he could be wrong.

> If  two persons think that, possibilities  they  are wrong gets lower.

> If more  than two  persons maintain  that  your  way of saying  things

> amounts to trolling, I  would stop, take  ad deep breath, and consider

> that maybe *I* might be wrong.

I might, i might not...
>

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> Anyway..

>

> I think I understood  one of the  main problematic points is the usage

> of the linuxaudio.org domain.  As I already said, I think we can reach

> a compromise   here - have  www.linuxaudio.org be  a generic portal (I

> would anyway add a "this domain was brought to you thanks to the Linux

> Audio Consortium" banner - I think that's  fair) and use subdomains of

> linuxadio.org   for specific tasks,  as have  already been outlined in

> previous threads.

>

> As far  as your desire  to help  out  goes, that's welcome.   The main

> point is whether you  want to help  the Consortium (as a web designer,

> document writer, legal advisor, whatever)

>  or some  of the sub projects

> which we want to create under the  linuxaudio.org umbrella (I mean the

> domain, not the Linux Audio Consortium).

>

> If you do not want to  cooperate with the Consortium, that's perfectly

> fine  - but then I would   suggest that you  don't pester Consortium's

> members with  endless e-mails  on  what they are  doing wrong (because

> that *is* trolling).   One e-mail will suffice   - if we don't  follow

> your advice, it simply means we don't  agree with you  or we feel that

> your concerns are not worth enough  - I think  that's a fine position,

> at  least as much  as you  considering the  current Consortium's plans

> wrong is.

You simply haven't thoroughly read my messages. 
Let's forget about it. Good luck with your consortium.