> From: Patrick Shirkey [mailto:pshirkey@boosthardware.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:41 PM
> To: Robin Gareus
> Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic; consortium@lists.linuxaudio.org; Daniel James
> Subject: Re: [Consortium] Advertising Policy - linuxaudio.org
>
> Hi,
>
> I appreciate your point of view but I feel it is more of a board decision
> about how we handle sponsorship opportunities rather than a single
> persons
> call.
>
> - Being a "not for profit" organisation does not mean that we are not able
> to take any cash contributions. Instead it means that we are obligated to
> spend all the funding that we receive in support of our charter/mission.
> Anyway at the moment we are not officially registered as not for profit so
> that means we have no obligations under the "Not for Profit" laws for
> funding.
>
> Of course we don't have to take payments directly to Linuxaudio.org or
> the
> Consortium. Both Daniel and myself have registered companies that can
> legally act as proxies and deal with the accounting issues with no impact
> on Linuxaudio.org. After all it is simply a website with a .org suffix
> from a legal point of view. The Linux Audio Consortium is a completely
> seperate entity again. There is no legal requirement for the consortium to
> have any financial duties for the Linuxaudio.org domain name and/or
> any
> content hosted under that url.
>
> - As we already have sponsored advertising I don't see why it is a
> problem
> to allow *some* of the subdomains to host paid advertisements. As long
> as
> they meet the requirements of whatever policy we come up with.
>
> I have suggested that lau.linuxaudio.org and quicktoots.linuxaudio.org
> be
> hosted on my private server. These domains have always been about
> providing a "fun" entry into the Linux Audio Community so it seems to me
> they are prime places for *appropriate* paid advertising.
>
> - I have no problem with taking payments, handling the accounting
> process
> and distributing the cash in whichever way we determine to be the most
> appropriate. Daniel and I have already established a working
> relationship
> between Boost Hardware Ltd and 64 Studio Ltd.
>
> - In a perfect world I would love to be able to earn enough money from
> the
> "Linux Audio" digital channel to pay for content contributions,
> development and design in addition to hosting and maintenance costs. I
> think it is entirely within our charter to operate a professionally run
> digital media channel for the purpose of promoting the Linux Audio
> platform and open source multimedia software/hardware and
> businesses.
>
> I have already established
http://linuxmusicvideos.com. I am currently
> looking into the costs for purchasing the linuxaudio.com domain name.
> The
> whois for that domain is mysterious. I suspect it is already owned by one
> of our members.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Patrick Shirkey
> Boost Hardware Ltd
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, April 19, 2012 9:56 pm, Robin Gareus wrote:
> > Hi *,
> >
> > Personally, I am against any commercial for-profit advertising on
> > *.linuxaudio.org domain and sub-domains. I suggest to use your own
> > domain-name for doing so.
> >
> > As Ico already pointed out: "we cannot make money off the site unless
> we
> > move to private hosting" -- private hosting equivalent to what vt.edu
> > offers us incl. unlimited traffic, 3 hourly, 7 nightly and 4 weekly full
> > backups of our 300GByte volume plus 24h support is probably >= 0
> per
> > month. I guess Ico could find out the exact numbers, though i suppose
> > it's better not to ask :)
> >
> > Besides, linuxaudio.org is a not-for-profit organization. As soon as we
> > receive money - for any subdomain -, someone would need to spend
> the
> > money and take care of accounting. Daniel who pays the DNS
> registration
> > for linuxaudio.org every year would be on top of the list to receive a
> > few beers from our first revenue.
> >
> > best,
> > robin
> >
> >
> > PS. some lac.linuxaudio.org pages do indeed feature links to sponsors
> > which and may fall under the category "advertising". However, none of
> > those is for-profit. The "sponsors" are institutions or companies who
> > directly support the Linux Audio Conference - mostly with non-financial
> > contributions: e.g. this year: LWN ran an ad-campaign for us; Stanford
> > sponsored location, coffee, Nando & Bruno's time, etc; CiTu.fr allowed
> > me to co-organize LAC while being employed there,..
> >
> > For the record, the LAC is under the auspices of the institution that
> > hosts the conference, linuxaudio.org is providing free hosting for the
> > conference site to the benefit the LA community.
> >
> > Besides, all external links on lac.linuxaudio.org and
> > wiki.linuxaudio.org are marked as rel="external" which defeats SEO to
> > some extent. If you find some links on *.linuxaudio.org to commercial
> > sites that are not rel="external", please let us know and I'll see to
> > remove them.
> >
> >
> > On 04/15/2012 02:36 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> I'll coordinate with Daniel to get the dns for those subdomains pointing
> >> at my server.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Patrick Shirkey
> >> Boost Hardware Ltd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, April 11, 2012 5:23 pm, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >>> Redirecting paid things to your own server will be the easiest and
> >>> fastest
> >>> solution to this if you are interested in having this done quickly.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From:
consortium-bounces@lists.linuxaudio.org [mailto:consortium-
> >>>> bounces@lists.linuxaudio.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shirkey
> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:16 AM
> >>>> To:
consortium@lists.linuxaudio.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Consortium] Advertising Policy - linuxaudio.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, April 8, 2012 3:29 am, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >>>>> On 04/07/2012 09:16 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> >>>>>> On 04/08/2012 01:38 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> >>>>>>> Easter Greetings to the list.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have been contacted by a reputable audio company who
> would
> >>>> like to
> >>>>>>> sponsor the "audio quality howto" by placing an advertisement
> on
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> page
> >>>>>>> for a one year period.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
http://lau.linuxaudio.org/audio_quality_howto.htm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do we have an advertising policy for Linuxaudio.org?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> why would anyone want to advertise on a page that has been
> >>>> bitrotting
> >>>>>> for 12 years?!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Bitrotting or not, the site is hosted by a land grant university for
> >>>>> free which I believe (translation: I am 99.99% sure) means we
> cannot
> >>>>> make money off the site unless we move to private hosting. I can
> >>>>> double-check with the powers that be if anyone needs a 100%
> >>>> confirmation
> >>>>> on this one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> They have offered for a one year placement. I'm still deciding if
> >>>> that
> >>>> is a fair amount.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am happy to host paid content on my own server if we can
> redirect
> >>>> the
> >>>> DNS to that location. I suggest that all content under the "lau" and
> >>>> "quicktoots" subdomains are hosted on my server.
> >>>>
> >>>> That way we are able to have paid content and free (as in beer)
> >>>> content so
> >>>> we are Libre in the true sense of the word.
> >>>>
> >>>> The next step will be to figure out a policy for advertising
> >>>> placements,
> >>>> how to deal with any income that is generated and how far we are
> >>>> prepared
> >>>> to go down that path.
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally I would love to be able to pay people to contribute to
> LAO
> >>>> and
> >>>> if advertising in a respectful and tasteful way helps make that
> >>>> possible
> >>>> then I think it is a reasonable topic for discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Patrick Shirkey
> >>>> Boost Hardware Ltd
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> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Boost Hardware Ltd
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>
>
> --
> Patrick Shirkey
> Boost Hardware Ltd