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On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote:
> Fons, you are tripping up over your own arguments here. Firstly you state that a

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> well written app should divorce itself from the underlying medium, then you are

> arguing that they actually should be using the underlying X11 to be able to be a

> distributed app.

X11 hides the hardware and allows the app to be independent of it, just as do

Jack for audio, sockets for networking, etc. Do you suggest that I should not

use Jack or sockets because e.g. Windows doesn't have them (natively) ?
> This is a contradiction 
It isn't. X does abstract the HW. And even more.
> and, for example, just because I know

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> about this app and how it works, bristol can work headless without X11 as it takes

> an abstract transport layer in a similar way to the one you are arguing both for and

> against. You simply do not need X11 for distributed processing or at least if you are

> dependent on it then, as you state yourself, your solution is badly written.

And how does Bristol run remotely but with a local display if not by either

X forwarding, or having some ad-hoc code to split the app into two parts ?

The latter has to be redone for each and every application, if you ever

want to use it remotely.
> > If 'a generation of users' is any reference, we should just forget about

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> > Linux, switch to Windows and call it a day. We should also eat only fast

> > food, believe everything the TV news and ads tell us, hate strangers and

> > homosexuals, and generally be ignorant about everything. There's probably

> > no argument more irrelevant than this sort of populist ones.

>

> Sarky today. My point is that a generation of users is used to not having to rely

> on as banal and cumbersome a method as that offered by X11 to distribute their

> processing - there are other ways it is being done.

How ? 
Ciao,
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FA

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