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On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 13:21 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote:

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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, David Robillard  wrote:

> >

> > Don't get me wrong, I think the site should be reworked to be as

> > friendly as possible, to make finding appropriate implementations as

> > easy as possible, and all that, but declaring an "official SDK" or

> > whatever just strikes me as silly.  You're basically asking if I think

> > modularity is bad.  No, I very emphatically do not think that at all. ;)

>

> I /personally/ agree that an "official SDK" is silly... be it LV2 or

> Android or Qt or MeeGo or whatever.  I'm a developer... why would I

> want to use some mickey-mouse SDK?  Give me the headers... and a

> chroot... and emacs... and a beer!

>

> However, these mickey-mouse SDK's /do/ foster adaptation of the

> technology.  There's a whole generation of ADHD Devs who are looking

> for some kind of gooey instant gratification.  "Oooo, an Eclipse

> plug-in!  Shiny!"

>

> ...and there's the fact that LV2 really /is/

> just-a-little-too-abstract for your average dev.

>

> So, while the idea of an LV2 SDK disgusts me (personally)... Olivier

> is right that it would accelerate developer acceptance.

http://drobilla.net/docs/lilv/
I don't think that's too abstract for your average dev.  It's a library

API.  Certainly your average dev can use a library.
Would renaming this "The LV2 SDK(R)(TM)" actually improve anything?
The focus here is wrong.  I'm sure there *are* things we can do to ease

adoption even further.  Effort into finding and improving those things

would certainly be great.  Documentation and a more friendly site, for

example.
Maybe some of those things people tend to _associate with_ an "official

SDK", but this is not the same as needing an official SDK.  We are not

Steinberg.  Discussing arbitrary silly labels is a waste of time.
Tackling actual problems that impede adoption, though, certainly not a

waste of time.  By all means, let's find those things, make a list on

the Wiki, and tackle them.
... Though, that said, I think hand-wavey discussions about "adoption"

and whatever are mostly hot air in general.  Developers who have an

actual interest in implementing things will do so, and have done so.  I

think the hypothetical situation of a developer who is genuinely about

to do the work being deterred by there being no "official SDK" or

whatever little aesthetic details is a fantasy.  I fully support any

effort to make things more friendly at face value, but... whatever,

really.  Less talk, more rock.
-dr
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