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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

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> On 05/15/2010 01:33 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

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>> I recommend joining the CCRMA mailing list, as there are many more

>> people there to help you. e.g. I can't help you much pulseaudio since

>> I always remove it from my systems,

>

> Dude!!!! Seriously? That is just so wrong in so many ways. It's one thing

> for a user to say this for whatever reason but you are claiming to represent

> Fedora who also fund a substantial amount of Pulse Audio's Development. So

> much for product loyalty.

>

> It's really no wonder people get confused about PA and JACK when even people

> with the most opportunity to make the system work together are bypassing the

> inherent integration issues by completely side stepping the problem.

>

And what makes you think I (we) never tried? Fedora is going to make

its 6th release with pulseaudio next week and pulseaudio is still

fundamentally buggy. I really don't want to talk about the hours I

spent on pulseaudio. Did you ever file a bug to pulseaudio? Or did you

try to reason with its developer? I did. Yes, I was stupid. But when

pulseaudio started crashing my wife's computer, and destroying her

hdd, I figured that it was time to react.
Me and many people in Fedora who are dealing with audio are willing to

drop pulseaudio, at least make it non-default. It is a waste of time

and resources to enforce some mobile device company's buggy toy on

Linux desktop users. Unfortunately for the time being, the steering

committee of Fedora does not contain enough people with audio

knowledge to make such a decision.
I am working at Fedora but that does not mean that I support

everything we do. It is a large community and like in all large

communities, we have disagreements. After all these years of

education, I can't promote stupidity. Sorry.
Orcan

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