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Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-08-30 22:39:15 +0200:

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> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:06:33PM +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:

>

> > 1. The great western classical tradition which started around Bach (or a few

> > hundred years earlier depending on how you look at/hear it) suddenly died

> > around 1900.

> > Classical music degenerated into varieties of insanities like serialism etc

> > and pop/rock etc emerged over the next 50 years out of what was earlier

> > simple folk music.

>

> That's quite an extreme way to put it I'd say. The 'great western classical

> tradition' is by no means a continuum, it is divided in periods that each

> had their own foundations and idioms. There are composers bridging the gaps

> of course, but that doesn't much change the basic historic structure.

>

> But yes, the early 20th century was surely a turning point in Western science

> and culture - mathematics and physics went through a crisis and came out

> stronger than ever, and in the arts - not only music - everything was turned

> over and the outcome of this is still unsure. Much of this was questioned

> in the final quarter of the 20th century (the postmodern movement), without

> IMHO offering anything in exchange. What we have today is some form of

> 'eclectism' that has its place in contemporary society but in itself has

> little power to survive.

If everything already was, nothing is new, how can anything not be

eclectic? I heard however that Goethe said basically the same thing,

everything that can be already is. I guess 'new' just gets 'smaller' all

the time. And everything new just derives from what was there before. I

think that never changed, it's just a matter of perception, and I guess

this development went faster than the general human perception developed.

--

Philipp
--

"Wir stehen selbst enttäuscht und sehn betroffen / Den Vorhang zu

und alle Fragen offen." Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan
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