Re: [LAU] State of the art GUI

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Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011 - 3:10 pm

On 01/29/2011 01:19 PM, fons@kokkinizita.net wrote:

> Not if you *know* you don't have to aim for it. And then any time

Knowing isn't enough, as this is behavior that either is, or becomes
automatic/sub-conscious due to training.

Blender has drag-from-everywhere sliders with knobs. I found myself
aiming at the knobs and the same was reported by other users. Anecdotal,
yes, but this has to weight more than just claiming it doesn't happen.

>> Finally, a knob requires "dead" space at the start and end of the

One or 2 pixels if you draw a frame around the widget, vs half a
knob-length.

>> Oh, and try a middle-click, sometime ;)

They are no suggested at all. Extra functionality that doesn't indicate
its presence, but is nice to have, you just have to know about this. I
deem this acceptable in cases of non-critical functionality, where the
alternative would be to simply don't have it.
Brought this up as a side-note only, though.

> As for Ardour2's one, I can't count the number of times I've

This supports what I said about knowing it not being enough ;p

But should the faders have their own scales, somehow made to match the
existing scale, or what would you suggest?

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