Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?

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Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 10:31 pm

Excerpts from Fons Adriaensen's message of 2011-10-19 22:42:32 +0200:

That's certainly true, I know this behavior from myself and others. I'm
sure it's not only encountered in music but at very least in other arts
as well. Example: "Understanding Comics", 1993, by Scott McCloud is a
comic about comics and near the end (p. 197) it say: "Comics welcomes
any writer or artist to step into its world, a world as close as pen or
pencil and paper", and in a margin note it says: "And no, they don't
have to be these types of pens and pencils.". At least to me this
indicates that in the world of comics people also tend to mimic the
'surface' only, or at least 'surface' first (same book, p 171). Most
likely it's a even more universal behavioral pattern and can be found
outside of art as well, I guess some psychologist somewhere even created
a name for it. I don't believe this is anything special, neither special
in music nor in time.

> Some months ago someone wrote that zita-at1 was indeed the only

I don't think I even know that effect, it might not last, and it doesn't
matter much anyway. People need to experiment, and to mimic others is
one way to experiment on a personal level. Most things don't stand the
test of time anyway and fade into irrelevance. Those effects don't need
to be feared because they likely won't last.

I don't see any obligation for anyone to write anything. If some effect
is possible with your software then you have a hard time complaining
about it if your software is released under the GPL because of the
freedom to use the software for any purpose. If its not possible then
people need to modify it on their own or achieve it some other way. I
can imagine that creating the feeling of obligation in authors is not
helpful. I can also imagine that this happens increasingly more often in
the free software scene in general, simply because free software is
presented as substitute or competition to commercial offerings and many
new users are as a consequence demanding instead of grateful and
supportive. In a sense a fundamental idea of free software is vanishing,
the idea of getting and giving. From a more positive view this whole
competition thing could be seen as a compliment to free software,
because it means that it often plays at least in the same league as
companies.

Have a good night,
Regards,
Philipp

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[LAU] Top DSP plugins?, James Stone, (Mon Oct 17, 9:22 pm)
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Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Thu Oct 20, 8:21 am)
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Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Thu Oct 20, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Fri Oct 21, 9:21 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Thu Oct 20, 8:02 pm)
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