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On 06/06/2011 03:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:

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> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

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>> Any hints how I get this card working are welcome.

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> Welcome to Linux audio I think...

just as a small reminder before we all go misty-eyed over the horrible

state of linux audio: in the universe i live in, there's this basic

assumption that hardware vendors should care for proper driver and

userspace support, because they want to sell their gear.

if they don't, that's their problem, take your money elsewhere.

this whole situation where people hack up drivers in their free time to

open markets to ignorant vendors is totally ass backwards. it's what

we've gotten used to, and i'm happy to have open-source drivers for the

pro gear i have to use, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that

it's all fine and dandy this way.
don't whine here, whine on .
> Anyway, as this device is part of the HDSP family - I own an HDSP 9652

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> - I can say that if you don't successfully run hdspconf&  hdspmixer

> you'll almost certainly never produce sound.

hdspconf won't support the new AIO and raydats afaik, use alsamixer

instead. i've tried to hack it a bit and actually got it to support the

hdsp madi, but it's messy and not really worth the effort imho...

but not rocket science either.

the problem is that everyone i talked to told me fltk is on its way out,

fast, and i don't really feel motivated to redo everything in gtk when i

only have two rme cards and can do everything i need with alsamixer, if

less conveniently.
> The HDSP family has a

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> rather large and somewhat daunting internal audio router and without

> running the mixer and configuring it nothing is routed and sound goes

> nowhere.

i know for certain that hdspmixer supports at least the hdsp pci devices

and the hdspm madi pcie, and i'm pretty sure it also supports the AIO

and raydat.
> There is no command line way to access the router, TTBOMK and

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> ONLY *MY* OPINION, but with Thomas Charbonnel long gone from Linux

> audio development I'm unsure whether anyone has the depth of knowledge

> and, frankly, interest in tackling the tasks to do anything new in

> this area.

i guess the problem is that rme are a bit difficult to work with -

there's no-one in particular you could talk to, it's just a bunch of

freelance designer hotshots and a marketing department. they have been

helpful with specs on and off (sometimes quite late, as in the case of

the firefaces), but there has been no established relationship to any

team of driver maintainers...
> It would be great to find another developer with the interest that we

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> had when Thomas was here. I'll work with anyone wanting to do

> development by testing code here, as I did with Thomas.

get in touch with adi. do you have any of the recent pcie rme devices?
> That said, it's possible that all you need is a new PCI device IDs

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> added to the existing HDSP driver and possibly it would work. Not

> sure.

i heard the raydat and aio drivers basically work. there used to be the

problem that they would only run at 1024 frames, but looking at the

commit log, adi tackled that one a while ago.
frankly, with bug reports like "As expected, now ALSA is broken.", what

do you expect? that's really a huge waste of time. i've seen alsa break

in a hundred shiny different ways from the subtle to the spectacular,

and unless the OP gets his act together and provides some real

information, PEBKAC is what i'll be assuming.

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