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2011/7/17 Moshe Werner 
> Hi to all,

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>

> I'm an audio engineer in my day (and night) work, but definitely not a

> programmer.

> Yet there is one endless discussion between friends and colleges of mine

> that I usually do not participate in due to the lack of knowledge.

> The topic is algorithms of software (DAW) mixers. Some people say that they

> can hear a sound difference between several kinds of software mixers (e.g.

> Cubase, Protools etc.).

> I must say that I never made any serious A\B testing but I didn't notice

> that there is any difference. Although I do work with Pro-tools and Cubase

> (in other studios), most of the time I'm actually using Ardour (and I'm

> loving it).

>

> My questions would be:

> 1. Is it only me that can't here a difference between different DAWs mixing

> algorithms?

>

Hi all, i think that the reason why different DAWs may sounds in a little

different ways, is because of the so called "Pan Law", before than the

summing algorithms.

A mono sound, middle panned, is 3dB more powerful than the same sound panned

all L or R.

For a stereo sound the gap is 6dB.

Different DAWs face that "issue" in different ways: i don't know it

personally but i found on the web that Pro Tools HD give a -4.5 dB to the

sound in center, Cubase SX has -3dB by default but let you choose if -3,

-4.5, -6 or 0dB, etc...

I don't know the Ardour behaviour now, but i think it's equal power (without

decreases in the centre).

Those differences in panning may influence a little bit the "sound" of a

DAW, especially if you are mixing sounds panned close to the centre.
Bona!

Lorenzo
2. To the developers out there, what is your opinion? Is there a

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> better/worse algorithm, or is the whole thing another "pay 600$ for this

> software - it has great algorithms!!!" hype?

> 3. If there is a difference what's the explanation?

> 4. Analog emulation plugins. How does one "emulate" analog waveforms in a

> digital world? That sounds like a paradox to me.

>

> Hope that's not to many questions in one mail.

>

> Thanks for your time

> Moshe

>

>

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2011/7/17 Moshe Werner <moshwe@gmail.com>
Hi to all, I'm an audio engineer in my day (an=

d night) work, but definitely not a programmer. Yet there is one endles=

s discussion between friends and colleges of mine that I usually do not par=

ticipate in due to the lack of knowledge.
The topic is algorithms of software (DAW) mixers. Some people say that they=

 can hear a sound difference between several kinds of software mixers (e.g.=

 Cubase, Protools etc.).I must say that I never made any serious A\B te=

sting but I didn't notice that there is any difference. Although I do w=

ork with Pro-tools and Cubase (in other studios), most of the time I'm =

actually using Ardour (and I'm loving it).
My questions would be:1. Is it only me that can't here a differ=

ence between different DAWs mixing algorithms?<=

br>Hi all, i think that the reason why different DAWs may sounds=

 in a little different ways, is because of the so called "Pan Law&quot=

;, before than the summing algorithms.
A mono sound, middle panned, is 3dB more powerful than the same sound =

panned all L or R.For a stereo sound the gap is 6dB.D=

ifferent DAWs face that "issue" in different ways: i don't kn=

ow it personally but i found on the web that Pro Tools HD give a -4.5 dB to=

 the sound in center, Cubase SX has -3dB by default but let you choose if -=

3, -4.5, -6 or 0dB, etc...
I don't know the Ardour behaviour now, but i think it's equal =

power (without decreases in the centre).Those differences in pan=

ning may influence a little bit the "sound" of a DAW, especially =

if you are mixing sounds panned close to the centre.=C2=A0
Bona!=C2=A0Lorenzo=

=C2=A0
2. To the developers out there, what is your opinion? Is t=

here a better/worse algorithm, or is the whole thing another "pay 600$=

 for this software - it has great algorithms!!!" hype?

3. If there is a difference what's the explanation?4. Analog emulat=

ion plugins. How does one "emulate" analog waveforms in a digital=

 world? That sounds like a paradox to me.Hope that's not to man=

y questions in one mail.
Thanks for your timeMoshe

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