Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio

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Date: Monday, April 23, 2012 - 11:01 am

On Mon, April 23, 2012 2:06 am, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:

The liklihood of the Linux Audio community succumbing to the evils of the
mighty dollar is pretty ridiculous. We have too many checks and balances
and are not afraid to call a spade a spade. We are certainly not beholden
to anyone else's agenda afaict.

>>We may even make enough money in

The message is whatever we want it to be. If the message is that Linux
Audio is *only* interested in non profit, volunteer or barely breaking
even financial support from educational institutes then I guess we have
already defined it and there is nothing more to be done.

There is more to this community than just a bunch of well resourced
academics and semi retired technical experts with enough time on their
hands to give away everything for free.

>> If we continue to avoid the whole issue that is exactly what the "Evil"

That's fine that people disagree with me. I knew that before I asked the
list for feedback. I am seeking to find out how far it goes. Has it been a
conscious choice over the years to avoid the marketing industry as much as
possible or is it simply due to lack of expertise/interest/motivation.

One thing I don't understand is why some people think that taking steps to
make Linux Audio more attractive to advertisers in terms of providing
access to a professionally run channel for businesses that would like to
associate their brand with the Linux Audio platform is found to be so
distasteful.

Are we expected to believe that academia will provide all that we need and
therefore nothing else shall be required? What of the people who would
like to earn a living from the platform if possible are they simply on
their own or are we as a commmunity able to support them in their goals
too?

> Linuxaudio.org currently has (AFAIK) complete control of its brand,

The Linux Audio Consortium was originally setup to promote and support
Audio related businesses who seek to work with the Linux platform. What it
has become is primarily a means of promoting academic research and a "non
profit" agenda.

> If advertising is accepted I presume linuxaudio.org will have to be

That is why I have setup a new domain. linuxaudio.com was already taken
and would cost $3130 if anyone wants to purchase it. I think the
linux-audio.com domain is actually better suited as it provides a bit more
distinction so there should be less confusion from members of the
community. When it comes to people from outside looking in then they
probably won't make a distinction. But that is not necessarily a bad thing
as we can become "greater than the sum of our parts".

--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
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[LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 3:14 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Dan S, (Mon Apr 23, 11:48 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Apr 23, 11:58 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Apr 23, 12:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Ronald Stewart, (Mon Apr 23, 12:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Apr 23, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 1:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Apr 22, 10:53 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 11:04 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon Apr 23, 12:07 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Apr 23, 11:01 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, S. Massy, (Mon Apr 23, 7:36 pm)
[LAU] [OT] Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Apr 23, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Advertising vs Linux Audio, Gerald Mwangi, (Tue Apr 24, 8:34 am)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Tue Apr 24, 12:00 am)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Advertising vs Linux Audio, Burkhard W├Âlfel, (Tue Apr 24, 5:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Apr 24, 8:40 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon Apr 23, 5:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Alex Stone, (Mon Apr 23, 3:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Mon Apr 23, 11:12 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Paul Davis, (Mon Apr 23, 11:22 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Andreas Kuckartz, (Mon Apr 23, 5:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Egor Sanin, (Mon Apr 23, 6:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Lorenzo Sutton, (Tue Apr 24, 7:50 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Apr 23, 11:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Apr 23, 11:29 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Louigi Verona, (Mon Apr 23, 11:33 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Paul Davis, (Mon Apr 23, 11:33 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Arnold Krille, (Mon Apr 23, 5:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, gene heskett, (Mon Apr 23, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Mon Apr 23, 7:51 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Apr 22, 9:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 9:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Kevin Thoma, (Sun Apr 22, 8:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, hermann, (Mon Apr 23, 3:56 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 9:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, rosea.grammostola, (Sun Apr 22, 11:22 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 11:37 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Apr 22, 5:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 9:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Karl Hammar, (Sun Apr 22, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Louigi Verona, (Sun Apr 22, 12:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Apr 22, 5:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, gene heskett, (Sun Apr 22, 1:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, gene heskett, (Sun Apr 22, 9:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 9:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Julien Claassen, (Sun Apr 22, 8:39 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Folderol, (Sun Apr 22, 8:13 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Jouni Rinne, (Sun Apr 22, 8:31 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Apr 22, 8:01 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Robin Gareus, (Sun Apr 22, 8:30 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, S. Massy, (Sun Apr 22, 7:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, gene heskett, (Sun Apr 22, 8:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, S. Massy, (Sun Apr 22, 9:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, gene heskett, (Mon Apr 23, 1:07 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 10:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Robin Gareus, (Mon Apr 23, 12:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Apr 22, 1:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 9:15 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Robin Gareus, (Sun Apr 22, 9:24 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Roberto, (Wed Apr 25, 11:59 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Al Thompson, (Wed Apr 25, 9:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Roberto, (Thu Apr 26, 12:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Apr 25, 12:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Roberto, (Wed Apr 25, 9:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Apr 25, 9:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 10:12 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 8:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Apr 22, 10:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 10:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Andreas Kuckartz, (Sun Apr 22, 8:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 9:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Clemens Ladisch, (Sun Apr 22, 2:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 10:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, gene heskett, (Sun Apr 22, 7:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Apr 22, 3:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 11:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 10:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Robin Gareus, (Sun Apr 22, 11:52 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Fred, (Sun Apr 22, 9:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 12:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Robin Gareus, (Sun Apr 22, 1:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Apr 22, 1:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Robin Gareus, (Mon Apr 23, 12:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Apr 23, 11:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, hermann, (Sun Apr 22, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio, Bob van der Poel, (Sun Apr 22, 3:27 am)