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On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Funs Seelen  wrote:
> Hello,

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> I'm new to this list. This topic immediately got my attention because of

> some surprising statements related to music theory that were posed.

>

>

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:

>

>>

>> I recently got into an argument (on the python list so more OT there than

>> here :-) ) about whether a B# is the same  as C.  If we allow that they may

>> not always be the same then we have a case where the

>> theory-of-musical-harmony (may be) breaking.

>>

>>

> I don't understand what you mean with "theory-of-musical-harmony". Not

> intended to repeat an earlier discussion on another list, but C and B# are

> definitely not the same. They happen to represent the same frequency in

> equal temperament but that's all. On keyboards with 12 fixed pitches per

> octave (like a piano) they will also be represented by the same key,

> whether tempered equal, according to Werckmeister's theories or else.

> However theoretically they are different notes. That's one big part of the

> problem piano tuners have to deal with. Very recently I published an

> external for Pure Data (http://student-kmt.hku.nl/~funs/software.html)

>

This work looks interesting to me...

I have a Casio Celviano with  7 temperaments. I find that most western

'classical' music (Bach and Beethoven) usually sound better in Werckmeister

or Kirnberger than Equal. And  nonwestern music usually sounds much better

with Just (major or minor)
I am interested in carrying the experiments from the 7 fixed temperaments

of the Casio to the theorerically unlimited possibilities of a computer.

But Ive been stuck because:

- I dont know what software to use

- I am completely novice in music theory
Maybe I should try pure data??
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eelen <funsseelen@gmail.com> wrote:

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sed.On Thu, Jul 12, 20=

12 at 5:42 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote=

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ly got into an argument (on the python list so more OT there than here :-) =

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always be the same then we have a case where the theory-of-musical-harmony =

(may be) breaking.
I don't understand what yo=

u mean with "theory-of-musical-harmony". Not intended to repeat a=

n earlier discussion on another list, but C and B# are definitely not the s=

ame. They happen to represent the same frequency in equal temperament but t=

hat's all. On keyboards with 12 fixed pitches per octave (like a piano)=

 they will also be represented by the same key, whether tempered equal, acc=

ording to Werckmeister's theories or else. However theoretically they a=

re different notes. That's one big part of the problem piano tuners hav=

e to deal with. Very recently I published an external for Pure Data (htt=

p://student-kmt.hku.nl/~funs/software.html)

This work looks interesting to me...I have a Cas=

io Celviano with=A0 7 temperaments. I find that most western 'classical=

' music (Bach and Beethoven) usually sound better in Werckmeister or Ki=

rnberger than Equal. And=A0 nonwestern music usually sounds much better wit=

h Just (major or minor)

I am interested in carrying the experiments from the 7 fixed temperamen=

ts of the Casio to the theorerically unlimited possibilities of a computer.=

=A0 But Ive been stuck because:- I dont know what software to use

- I am completely novice in music theoryMaybe I should try pure dat=

a??
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